And on this web 2.0 social media user generated content day finds itself as Occupy Wall Street Day 80. And Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Together are still moving fast. Or is it? Are they? And it is not so often every so often that I find myself blah blaghing someones facebook post, though this is one of those blaghing times that I find myself reposting that Facebook post, as that post and thread just seems Occupy Wall Street general assembly spokes council interesting to me in bloggerland. And if you happen to be in the neighborhood of that city of New York, as one can read from the text below, there is an occupy wall street general assembly spokes council meeting tonight. And that facebook excerpt of a post that wants to speak for itself reads something like as follows:
seen on facebook, an excerpt... - John Penley - I am going to say what I have been saying for awhile people need to go to Zuccotti especially tonight. If you care about OWSNYC GO and let your voice be heard. This is serious.
...the GA at 7pm? i can be there the last few times have been a mix of frustrating sad and somehow still inspiring because i still support and believe what is happening and being done but it's such a difficult road we have all embarked on...
...Earlier if possible. I believe the Occupiers are going to confront the Spokes Council....
...at zucotti or 60 wall street?...
Confront the Spokes Council? What do you mean confront the Spokes Council?...
...true those GAs can be irritating and overly bureaucratic but we need to be there...if it's money that is dividing people i'm almost of the spirit to say f, blip, blip, k the money let those hoarders have it but let's keep on track, although sadly the people deciding how to spend it are also the ones shaping the direction this movement takes, so we have to stand and keep it in line with original intention...
...Erek you have no idea what has been going on. When was the last time you were at Zuccotti ? The people who have been occupying are tired of decisions being made at a spokescouncil made up of people who never go to Zuccotti anymore....
...The spokescouncil people are going home to warm apartments and then meeting and making decisions for those on the street who have no contact with them. As anyone who has been following me knows I have been begging people to go back to Zuccotti for a long time....
...please if you have not been to Zuccotti or a spokes council in the last two weeks do no comment unless you are going tonight you don't have enough info to make a legitimate comment///
...since the spokes/ga peoole aren't connected to the people on the street any more, only each other from internet discussions and planned meeting indoors, a lot of people are left out of their considerations who are on the street and either can't get back into zucotti because they have large bags / sleeping bags etc, or aren't kept in the loop regarding when and where meetings are going to be held...they tried to get the angry homeless occupiers off their backs when i was there last time by telling them they could get food but only right then (in the middle of the GA) since it was being served a block away from the GA...it really seemed like a dirty trick, since they weren't hungry at all and had probably eaten but the people on the street were angry enough to say "fuck the food, we want to talk about this now"...
...Ok then you should know what is the problem sorry a lot of people are jumping in without having any facts....
...John: Spokescouncils and GAs have NEVER EVER been legitimate organizations. I have never submitted myself to their dictates or their wills. Just as I don't need to stand in the same fu blip, blip, ing park all the time to make a difference. It's all Spectacle, it's not real....
and so on and so on and so on...
And also...
John Penley
At this point there is a total disconnect between the Occupiers, the people going to Zuccotti Park every day and the Spokescouncil which is having meetings in warm spaces but not going to the GA in the park. The Spokescouncil must return to Zuccotti Park or everything will stop.
...Dude no money is going to help people until this is resolved and you have been out of town.
....I need to believe it's possible to reclaim the unity we saw in Sept...
....so sad to hear that ..in Los Angeles they are a bit disconected ..but it is just the fact they have no secure place to gather ...as far as i know , but they are not giving up by any means ..
...The spokescouncil must go all to Zuccotti and have a big GA...
....ll money is shut down until this is resolved...
....No if money is not spent people are getting thrown out of Churches and metro cards stop etc etc if you don't know what is going on you should wait til you get back to comment...
....i agree that if they do not begin to work with the occupiers then we should go to every GA and block their proposals to spend money at every turn...it is a sad solution but it will get their attention and force them to begin to work with the people again who put their asses on the line and in the cold every night...the last GA we went to people wanted to hire trainers for the Medical team to learn urban street survival tactics, which would have been fine and dandy to help the occupiers, except as I brought up, I have not seen any Medics on the street helping for the last couple weeks, so spending nearly 1600 dollars on that seemed kind of silly, why learn how to survive and help people on the streets, when you and your team are all living indoors?...
....at that same GA the people in the park who had been sleeping there for months, and were still hanging out there at night diidn't even recognize the people running the GA so began chanting "who are you? who are you?"...they had not even been sleeping there (or no one recognized them) and somehow still were managing things...
....I hesitate to suggest this but as an absolutely last possible resort, start a new donation line for the park Occupiers?....
....the spokescouncil is composed of representatives from the different working groups who represent their interests at the GA...
....I still do not understand why there has to be a Spokescouncil and when they are representatives they should be on the camp and then they see each other the whole day and you do not need representatives. By the way where are the actions against the 1%?....
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and so on and so on and so on....
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